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Using Auto Batteries For Off Grid Energy Storage

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When it comes to cheap, readily available rechargeable batteries, few can rival those in automobile systems.

Knowing which type of battery you are dealing with will go a long way to helping you determine how best to use the battery and keep it in good condition.

Even after a crisis, you should be able to find batteries in abandoned vehicles that can be scavenged for battery acid or other materials that can be used to rebuild existing batteries.

Therefore, even if you decide to use some other battery type for energy storage, knowing how to manage, maintain, and get the most from automobile batteries should form a key part of your energy independence plans.

As an added bonus, if you decide to maintain a vehicle after a crisis, knowing how to maintain batteries will always be of benefit.

How to Tell the Difference Between Shallow and Deep Cycle Batteries

In order to start your car, the ignition system must provide enough power to enable the starter’s pinion to engage a second pinion located on the engine. Once the engine turns over, the starter has no further use until you want to start the car up again.

Even though the starter may not run more than two to four seconds, the battery must provide a lot of power in that time period.

A shallow cycle battery works well in these situations because it can produce several amps of power in a short period of time without causing damage to the battery.

As long as a shallow cycle battery is not fully discharged or forced to drain large amounts of current for long periods, it should last for several years.

You can recognize shallow cycle batteries because they usually have a higher CCA (Cold Cranking Amps) rating. They are also usually found under the hood in cars and trucks and tend to be smaller than deep cycle versions that would produce the same current and amperage.

In a time of need, you are likely to find shallow cycle batteries far more plentiful than deep cycle ones.

A deep cycle battery is made of the exact same parts as a shallow cycle battery, with the exception being the metal plates are significantly thicker. Some also use gel or other thickening agents to reduce water loss while keeping the electrolyte suspended between the plates.

This enables the battery to discharge more power over a longer period of time without being damaged. The trade off with a deep cycle battery is that it does not work as well when it must deliver a large amount of current in a short period of time. Perhaps it can be said that shallow cycle batteries are like sprinters while deep cycle versions are more akin to distance marathon runners.

Typically, deep cycle batteries are found in forklifts, motorized wheelchairs, RVs and other places that require steady voltage over long periods of time. They are also commonly used in solar, wind, and other off-grid power systems.

Shallow Cycle Batteries Can Be Used with Limitations

Many people don’t realize that automobile batteries are constantly charging and discharging while the vehicle is in operation, and also when the ignition is shut off. For example, if you have a clock or alarm system on your car, these devices will feed off the battery even if it is not being charged by the alternator.

Likewise, when you have the lights on, the power comes from the battery even if the engine is running and turning the alternator. Since the alternator is the only charging source for the battery, you will find that the battery is constantly being charged and discharged at the same time.

This is very similar to an energy storage system where you may be generating power from solar, wind, water, or magnetic power even as you are using electric devices that feed from the batteries. As long as you keep the drain low, you can, indeed, use a shallow cycle battery for storing power and a steady discharge.

As a general rule of thumb, I look for devices with a similar power rating to automobile headlamps; which I’ve kept running on the same solar to shallow cycle battery system for years.  You can also use joule thieves to pump out more power for slightly higher drain devices.

Deep Cycle Batteries are Recommended for Power Storage, but Not Perfect

If you have ever had a car battery suddenly “die” as soon as cold weather hits, then you already know that an automobile battery may be suddenly called upon to put out much more power than it takes in. When the weather gets cold, a weak battery cannot discharge as efficiently as it can in warmer weather.

Once the temperature warms up, these same batteries will once again seem to work perfectly. As you consider the seasonal changes in your bug out location, never forget that even a 10 degree change in temperature can cause an old, or poorly maintained battery to fail. As with trying to start your car in cold weather, rest assured that you will not be able to run electrical devices feeding off that particular battery.

Unfortunately, most “deep cycle battery” enthusiasts feel that the cold cranking amp rating on a battery is not as important as its capacity to discharge fully or deliver steady current for long periods of time. If you discharge a deep cycle battery fully, it will wear out and be ruined.

Typically, they should not be discharged more than 45% of their carrying capacity. While this is a 35% improvement over shallow cycle batteries, you still don’t have full use of the power in the battery. In addition, remember that lower cold cranking amps will still spell trouble as the battery gets older and weaker.

Choosing the Best Batteries 

Before you start shopping for energy storage batteries, make a list of all the devices you will need to power. If you have LED arrays, small netbook computers, cell phones, and other relatively low drain devices on your list, you can save a good bit of money by buying shallow cycle batteries.

You can also connect shallow voltage batteries together and combine with joule thieves in order to reduce drainage while powering mid-range devices such as small, low wattage appliances and some that work in RVs.

The number of batteries you use will depend on the power rating for each appliance, the recommended output for each battery, and the condition of each battery. For larger drain appliances such as water pumps, washing machines, and refrigerators, you will still need deep cycle batteries or look to versions that do not run on electricity.

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Maintaining and Reviving Batteries 

One of the biggest problems with batteries is that you can’t just store them away and then use them at some point in the future. Even the best battery will corrode or develop other problems if not used on a regular basis. Therefore, once you buy batteries for survival needs, make sure you are ready to use them on a daily basis, and also know how to maintain them. This includes:

  • Always check terminals for corrosion and remove it as soon as you see it starting to build up. This one step alone will add years to the life of the battery and improve its performance.
  • Make sure that each cell has enough fluid to cover the metal plates. Use distilled water when refilling flooded or “wet cell” batteries. Do not use water to refill gel or ADM batteries.
  • Do not refill batteries unless they are fully charged.
  • Make sure your battery tester accurately measures acid activity levels. Keep acid on hand, but do not use unless you are prepared to either rebuild the battery or intend to scrap it fairly soon. Adding extra acid can keep the battery going for a bit longer, however, it will not solve issues related to plate wear.
  • Keep batteries as cool as possible. If they heat up while charging, allow them to cool before using.
  • Keep safety equipment, tools, and materials on hand that will allow you to rebuild plates or even replace them as needed. Taking the time to learn how to do these things now will save you an enormous amount of trouble decades from now when all the existing batteries are no longer usable. Remember, in a serious crisis, it may take more than decades before it becomes possible to start making new batteries again.

What About “Maintenance Free” Batteries? 

If you have a newer vehicle, then you may already know there is no getting into it to add water or even check the electrolyte levels. It should be noted that even a gel battery (which make their own water) will still need some maintenance for long term use. Unfortunately, once these batteries die out, they may well be useless.

Do not waste your time buying these batteries for survival needs. Instead, look for older styles where you can get into the cells, add water, and perform other maintenance as needed. Individuals that want to try reviving or learning how to maintain these batteries can try the suggestions found in this video.

Video first seen on Walt Barrett

(Note from the author – I have not tried this system for maintenance free batteries, so cannot say whether it works or not. Since the video creator is using a standard electrolyte tester, it does not seem likely he is working with a gel battery.) 

During the process of preparing a bug out location, it is very easy to be fooled by early successes in various aspects of your plans. In particular, if you already purchased deep cycle batteries for power storage, any number of things can still cause them to fail several years down the road.

If society is not in a condition where you can buy new ones, you will be stuck with no way to repair them and regain what was lost.

From that perspective, never underestimate the value of scavenged shallow cycle batteries, or anything else that you can use to store power.

This article has been written by Carmela Tyrell for Survivopedia.

 

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Carmela Tyrrell is committed to off gridding for survival and every day life. She is currently working on combining vertical container gardening with hydroponics. Tyrrell is also exploring ways to integrate magnetic and solar power generation methods. On any given day, her husband and six cats give thanks that she has not yet blown up the house. You can send Carmela a message at editor [at] survivopedia.com.

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  2. Dennis says:
    10 years ago

    Good article!

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  3. Richard Minor says:
    10 years ago

    I have known for more than two years that the northern part of America will go DARK–(the grid will go down in the North) and there will be famine and desolation in the south–it is good to see that you are trying to prepare — and help others prepare

    Reply
  4. Greg Shafer says:
    10 years ago

    I am 62, and single, and I bought a 40′ RV, one I can move if needed. Two, extra water storage, Three, all the lights and water pump are 12 volt, While Rv’s are not a fortress, they are good habitat on and off the grid. with built in inverter, and converter. I would like to add more batteries with a solar system. The reduced cubic feet in a RV verses a home is much less, and easier to heat. Word about forts, first means you have something to protect, such as food, water, weapons, and ammo. Unless you live in a missile silo, which is good to keep out the average Joe. But if the right people want in, most forts can be breach, and turns into a death trap. Bunkers have a fresh air supply, they can cog that up, or pour nasty smelling chemicals, to force you out of your bunker. People have different plans on how to survive. I wish everyone the best when the collapse comes. God gave us the instinct to survive, and that instinct is strong for some people.

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  6. Engineer Mike says:
    10 years ago

    The starter “pinion”? The starter is also a soloniod, that what makes it engage the fly wheel. The starter motor that turns the engine over is what takes the power. Gel cells make their own water? They simply don’t let the water boil or evaporiate, adding a little distled water in a dry climte doesn’t hurt them. Over all a good highlight of difference between car battries and the other types. Above many peoples head even at this level, but if your salavaging after SHFT know what to look for. I’d acquire a golf cart of two within two weeks of a MAJOR SHFT, just to run house hold lighting.

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  9. Joe says:
    7 years ago

    I stopped reading the article because it became an opinion when I read this “Typically, they should not be discharged more than 45% of their carrying capacity. While this is a 35% improvement over shallow cycle batteries, you still don’t have full use of the power in the battery.” Seriously… 45%, don’t discharge below 45% you say, it’s 20%. The deeper you discharge your deep cycle battery between charges the longer your battery(ies) will last – fact. No need to read on – bad advice, shallow advice.

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  10. Zephod Beeblebrox says:
    7 years ago

    I’ve found deep cycle batteries just don’t work. I bought one if Harbor Freights 35ah batteries. Dead inside a year. Replacing it with a lawnmower battery. Not paying $55 for something I can pay $20 for.

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